• Re: I just installed sync

    From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Dmxrob on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 12:31:00
    You should have been around during the golden era -- the 1980s into the very late 1990s. What a memory, and what a time! Rushing home from school to try to get on your local boards before everyone else and the constant busy signals until the wee hours of the morning.

    Ahhhh those good ol' days! As a SysOp, I had it so that user activity would be printed out on my dot matrix printer in real time as I was at high school. I'd come home, tear it off the printer and read through what everyone did while I was at school. I loved those days.

    In many ways, with the growing hatred amongst all people towards Facebook/Meta, AI, tech in general I am surprised we aren't seeing more
    of a resurgence of BBS systems. I think people have finally had enough
    of being told what tech they WILL use to enrich to the tech bros. Sure took long enough.

    This! I really do hope we start seeing more folks coming into the "modern" BBS scene and the numbers start going up. Like a new revival, a new era (but same old vibe and structure). That would be so sweet.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Knight Shadow on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 14:50:02
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Knight Shadow to Dmxrob on Wed Aug 26 2026 12:31 pm

    Ahhhh those good ol' days! As a SysOp, I had it so that user activity would be printed out on my dot matrix printer in real time as I was at high school. I'd come home, tear it off the printer and read through what everyone did while I was at school. I loved those days.

    I also had a dot matrix printer and ran a BBS in those days.. I'd think that would have been noisy though, which wouldn't really be ideal when users logged in at night. I was naturally curious about my BBS activity too, but I'd usually turn on the PC monitor and check the log files. As a high school age kid, I was happy to see users were logging in and using my BBS.

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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 18:14:00
    I also had a dot matrix printer and ran a BBS in those days.. I'd think that would have been noisy though, which wouldn't really be ideal when users logged in at night. I was naturally curious about my BBS activity

    Oh yes, definitely would not have it on at night. Just while I was at school :) There is no way I could sleep with that thing zapping lines out on the printer as users did things.

    too, but I'd usually turn on the PC monitor and check the log files. As
    a high school age kid, I was happy to see users were logging in and
    using my BBS.

    That reminds me, I need to go stop by Digital Distortion soon and sign up!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Thursday, August 27, 2026 19:07:37
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Dmxrob to Knight Shadow on Thu Aug 27 2026 10:22 am

    enough of being told what tech they WILL use to enrich to the tech bros. Sure took long enough.

    This! I really do hope we start seeing more folks coming into the "modern" > > BBS scene and the numbers start going up. Like a new revival, a new era
    (but same old vibe and structure). That would be so sweet.

    I think the biggest barrier to entry is people don't know how to access boards. We need a well-used, modern access program - SyncTerm is about all I know of, and it's decent but not all that intuitive at at times.

    There is also the mobile barrier... BBS systems are just not designed for mobile interaction.



    We have had flash and html5 interfaces for many years. that eliminates the need to use syncterm. you're right about mobile. bbses just dont work well on a phone.

    Maybe someone can cook something up with AI.

    Overall, like i've always said, they don't want what we have.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, August 27, 2026 19:11:08
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Thu Aug 27 2026 07:07 pm

    the need to use syncterm. you're right about mobile. bbses just dont work well on a phone.

    Maybe someone can cook something up with AI.

    I think it would probably still be necessary to guide the AI as far as what the user interface and user experience should be. I'm not sure if an AI coding tool could come up with something for mobile that works well with BBS terminal interfaces without much guidance.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Knight Shadow on Thursday, August 27, 2026 22:18:32
    Knight Shadow wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    Ahhhh those good ol' days! As a SysOp, I had it so that user activity would be printed out on my dot matrix printer in real time as I was at high school. I'd come home, tear it off the printer and read through
    what everyone did while I was at school. I loved those days.

    I remember getting up early to go into work and seeing the modem lights
    flashing. I was a caller from Sweden. TO think that I could set up a
    computer saved from a dumpster, hook it up to a phone line and have
    someone halfway around the world connect to it was mind-boggling. The
    world was a lot bigger then.




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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, August 27, 2026 23:35:00
    flashing. I was a caller from Sweden. TO think that I could set up a
    computer saved from a dumpster, hook it up to a phone line and have

    Oh cool story! You found a computer in the dumpster? What kind was it? Did you just plug it in and things were working? (after you cleaned it off I presume... that was probably step 1 :) )

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  • From Randers@VERT/V1NTAGE to Nightfox on Friday, August 28, 2026 19:18:34
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Nightfox to Knight Shadow on Wed Aug 26 2026 02:50 pm

    would be printed out on my dot matrix printer in real time as I was at high school. I'd come home, tear it off the printer and read through what everyone did while I was at school. I loved those days.

    I'll never get tired of this topic. I love the nostalgia too. I nearly failed an assigment in grade 3 or grade 4, so roughly 1989, because it was printed (dot matrix). The teacher could not grasp that we had a printer at home, or further to that, that I could possibly use it. She insisted there was no way I was capable of it.

    I would like to get some dot matrix paper now for stress relief. Tearing off the sides was up there with popping bubbles in bubblewrap for satisfying, although it'd go wrong often and you'd lose half the paper too. Then have to wait a few minutes to reprint that one page. Carefully folding and unfolding first was the key to success.

    But ah.... it was a simple time :D


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Knight Shadow on Friday, August 28, 2026 07:13:24
    Knight Shadow wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Oh cool story! You found a computer in the dumpster? What kind was it?
    Did you just plug it in and things were working? (after you cleaned it
    off I presume... that was probably step 1 :) )

    Not quite literally. My boss told me to clear out a storage room. I
    asked what he wanted me to do with the old computers that were in
    there. He directed me to toss them in the dumpster. I missed the
    dumpster, a couple ended up in my car.

    I wish I'd kept them -- there was an IBM AT store controller (a
    commercial version of the IBM AT meant for point-of-sale), an AT&T PC
    (very cool design) and a Compaq "Portable" that ended up in my car -
    along with a box of 2400 baud modems that I used to give out with a
    terminal program (with my BBS in the #1 slot, of course...)



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Randers on Friday, August 28, 2026 07:13:24
    Randers wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I would like to get some dot matrix paper now for stress relief.
    Tearing off the sides was up there with popping bubbles in bubblewrap
    for satisfying, although it'd go wrong often and you'd lose half the
    paper too. Then have to wait a few minutes to reprint that one page. Carefully folding and unfolding first was the key to success.

    But ah.... it was a simple time :D

    I was a computer acolyte back then, and my jobs invariably involved
    running high-speed line printers that measured speed in lines per
    second - feeding it boxes of greenbar 11x17 paper, separating printouts
    and distributing them.

    For a retail shop before people had computers at every desk, inventory,
    sales and accounting reports all ran first thing in the morning by me,
    then I'd distribute them in mailboxes. That was your "real-time" data.



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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Randers on Friday, August 28, 2026 09:29:00
    too. Then have to wait a few minutes to reprint that one page. Carefully folding and unfolding first was the key to success.

    Lol yes! I also remember first learning the technique for the perforated sides of the paper (with the vertical holes for the printer feed wheels). Where you would fold them inward and then while they stood folded vertically, you "peel" them from top to bottom an inch at a time.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Knight Shadow on Friday, August 28, 2026 15:34:43
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Knight Shadow to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 27 2026 11:35 pm

    flashing. I was a caller from Sweden. TO think that I could set up a
    computer saved from a dumpster, hook it up to a phone line and have

    Oh cool story! You found a computer in the dumpster? What kind was it? Did you just plug it in and things were working? (after you cleaned it off I presume... that was probably step 1 :) )

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    It's just one of his stories.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Randers on Friday, August 28, 2026 17:44:42
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Randers to Nightfox on Fri Aug 28 2026 07:18 pm

    I'll never get tired of this topic. I love the nostalgia too. I nearly failed an assigment in grade 3 or grade 4, so roughly 1989, because it was printed (dot matrix). The teacher could not grasp that we had a printer at home, or further to that, that I could possibly use it. She insisted there was no way I was capable of it.

    :)

    That reminds me of something my older brother was telling me years ago. I went into software engineering as a career, like him, and one time we were discussing interview experiences. We both got into computers at a young age, as kids, so we basically grew up around computers. My brother said he had some skills listed on his resume that he'd used for some number of years, and he said he had an interview where the interviewer mentioned he must have been fairly young when he started using that skill, and my brother confirmed, and the interviewer didn't believe him.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dagent23@VERT/NSA2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, August 28, 2026 21:25:53
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Knight Shadow on Thu Aug 27 2026 22:18:32

    Knight Shadow wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    Ahhhh those good ol' days! As a SysOp, I had it so that user activity would be printed out on my dot matrix printer in real time as I was at high school. I'd come home, tear it off the printer and read through what everyone did while I was at school. I loved those days.

    I remember getting up early to go into work and seeing the modem lights
    flashing. I was a caller from Sweden. TO think that I could set up a
    computer saved from a dumpster, hook it up to a phone line and have
    someone halfway around the world connect to it was mind-boggling. The
    world was a lot bigger then.




    ... Make a blank valuable by putting it in an exquisite frame

    My favorite BBS memory is when I got a hard drive for my Commodore 128 and, as hard drivcs were delightfully chirpy and I remember laying in bed and the modemwould answer and the the led on the hard drive would light up the room like a
    flickering cable with its chrips lulling me to sleep.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 29, 2026 14:08:58
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Aug 29 2026 08:39:16

    -- how we used to have to submit jobs on stacks of punched cards.
    That's the way it was -- and WE LIKED IT!"

    Until you dropped your deck, then not so much.

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  • From Knight Shadow@VERT/BONEYARD to Mortar on Saturday, August 29, 2026 14:13:00
    Until you dropped your deck, then not so much.

    I worked with a lady that mentioned this exact scenario. A huge deck of a program in cards, all in a particular order, then whoopsie daisies! Scattered on the floor. Had to re-order them all again.

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  • From Outlaw@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 29, 2026 18:17:20
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dagent23 on Sat Aug 29 2026 08:39 am

    I found old-school power supply fans to be like white noise, lulling me back to sleep if I woke up in the middle of the night. I'd hear the hard drive chattering and I'd know it was zone mail hour - the board tossing mail from Fidonet.

    I had my BBS set up in my room, I remember waking up to blinking HD light an incomming call answered by the modem doing the nightly mail toss.
    I was part of the Beehive network, back then we grabbed mail once every day.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mortar on Sunday, August 30, 2026 01:18:20
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Mortar to Dmxrob on Sat Aug 29 2026 01:46 pm

    mobile interaction.

    As it should be. You want the true BBS experience, that "vide", use a real computer; desktop, laptop, even a Surface or Linux tablet will work.

    Everyone uses phones now. Tablets aren't even popular anymore.

    You remind me of the old bbs sysops who said that the internet will never
    be popular because the internet will never have what they have on bbs.

    I believe the guy i recall saying this was talking about his cooking recipes Database.





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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, October 05, 2026 17:11:00
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Outlaw on Mon Oct 05 2026 09:07 am

    We're the guys who thought that internet thing was just a passing fad.
    :)

    Is it not? It completely sucks anyway.



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Neko on Friday, October 09, 2026 08:33:00
    Neko wrote to Bryn <=-

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    Re: Re: I just installed syncterm I NOW
    LIKE BBSES!! :)
    By: Bryn to Gamgee on Sun
    Oct 04 2026 12:04:05

    The most reliable estimate I could pull from
    mastodon.fediverse.observer/stat
    s is ~900,000 active monthly users. Certainly a few orders of magnitude below mainstream social media, but I
    don't think that's nearly as niche as the BBS
    community.

    I also know at least a few people that are visiting "fediverse
    instances" regularily, but been to BBSes once or twice and don't seem
    to catch the thing for too long. Maybe because of a network effect, because some of them are at least familiar with terminal interfaces.

    Its mostly the network effect I think. I myself, despite being familiar with these interfaces, "drop out" of BBS's and the other alternative, older systems because the people just aren't there.

    After all, I use the technology to communicate with people, not just for the sake of using the technology.

    The Gemini community is a good example of people who are together because of a technology, and not an actual desire to talk to each other.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to phigan on Wednesday, October 14, 2026 08:43:00
    phigan wrote to Boraxman <=-

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    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Boraxman to Neko on
    Fri Oct 09 2026 08:33 am

    After all, I use the technology to communicate with people, not just for the sake of using the technology.

    Heheh, it's other way round for me. Technology first, because that's
    what I'm interested in. The communications part is like a byproduct.


    I am interested in the technology too, but it would be empty if no one used it.


    The Gemini community is a good example of people who are together because of technology, and not an actual desire to talk to each other.

    What all have you found on Gemini? And where does one look, really?
    What software did you use? I mostly like reading things either from old computer terminals or any ol' linux/unix shell, so I like the "less graphics" idea.
    ---

    There are a few Gemini browsers. A good terminal one is Amfora. Bombadillo is decent too.

    I like Elpher, which runs in Emacs.

    Where to start?

    A good starting point is gemini://circumlunar.space.
    Also gemini://geminiprotocol.net
    and
    gemini://henedy.gemi.dev
    for search, but it seems down as of now.

    It's mostly blogs. There is a community. In a way its like BBS's, people enthusiastic about the tech coming together, but because its static pages
    and not messages, conversations are done by people by people posting replies
    to other posts in the form of posts on their own site.

    I do maintain a Gopher site myself, which is very similar to Gemini, but older and accessible on older machines.

    Gemini requires TLS so you may not be able to use it on a 486 like Gopher.



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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Boraxman on Tuesday, October 13, 2026 17:57:30
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: Boraxman to phigan on Wed Oct 14 2026 08:43 am

    I do maintain a Gopher site myself, which is very similar to Gemini, but old and accessible on older machines.

    Gemini requires TLS so you may not be able to use it on a 486 like Gopher.

    Sweet, thanks for all that info. What's your Gopher site?
    I'd be using stuff older than a 486, but usually connected into a Raspberry Pi or something ;).. Like right now.
    Typin' on a breadbin 64.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to phigan on Saturday, October 17, 2026 13:04:39
    Re: Re: I just installed sync
    By: phigan to Boraxman on Tue Oct 13 2026 05:57 pm

    I do maintain a Gopher site myself, which is very similar to Gemini, but and accessible on older machines.

    Gemini requires TLS so you may not be able to use it on a 486 like Gopher

    Sweet, thanks for all that info. What's your Gopher site?
    I'd be using stuff older than a 486, but usually connected into a Raspberry or something ;).. Like right now.
    Typin' on a breadbin 64.


    Not a lot is on there

    It is at boraxman.strangled.net

    My blog, some articles, my programs. A large collection of humourous text files, other tips/tricks, mostly to do with Linux and FVWM..

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