• CLEARING ED WALTERS - AUT

    From Billy Lawter@RICKSBBS to All on Thursday, September 10, 2026 06:01:00
    Excerpts from MUFON Journal, Clearing Ed Walters
    (author of Gulf Breeze Sightings)

    "In order to keep this secret, they have obviously needed to
    do some strange things. For example, one guy who took some
    seemingly pretty good photos of UFOs in Gulf Breeze,
    Florida, was found to have apparently been hiding a model of
    the EXACT craft in his attic (he sold his house and the new
    residents found it). Knell implies that the FBI visited
    this man, stole construction material from him, crafted the
    model, and planted it in the attic..."

    This from the MUFON Journal;

    "...In late December 1988, Ed Walters moved to a new home to
    escape the attention of curiosity seekers. The residence he had
    occupied at 612 Silverthorn Road was put up for sale. The home
    remained vacant for 10 months, until it was purchased by Mr.
    Robert E. Menzer. In March 1990, Menzer was trying to find a
    shutoff valve on the water supply to his kitchen, so he could
    hook up a new ice maker. This search led him into the attic,
    where he found a UFO model under insulation and next to the
    water line to the kitchen.
    On June 4, 1990, a Pensacola News Journal reporter, Craig
    Myers, interviewed Menzer and asked a number of questions,
    including: "Did you find any models of UFOs, anything like
    that?" Menzer showed Myers the model, which Myers borrowed and
    from which he published the story.

    CONCLUSIONS ON MODEL

    Watson's [Gary Watson, MUFONs Chief Investigator for
    Escambia and Santa Rosa Counties] investigation concluded the
    model was not constructed before September 1989, at least 8.5
    months after Walters had moved out of the home. Furthermore,
    close examination of the model and Walters' photographs did not
    show any exact match of markings, height/width ratios, etc.
    Watson's final conclusion: 'The Model was built and planted by
    persons unknown in an attempt to discredit Ed Walters.'"

    End excerpt.

    The MUFON article goes into detial explaining how Watson
    arrived at his findings. I'll briefly outline them here.

    Excerpts;

    "...The model was made out of plastic foam plates and a strip
    of blueprint paper. The inside surface of the paper strip
    suggests it was once a part of a plot plan for a home..."

    "..By his own admission, Ed Walters recognized the
    hand-writing as being his own, suggesting the original
    blueprint was from a home Walters had designed..."

    "...September 6-7, 1989: Walters designs a custom home for
    Mr. and Mrs. Lynn C Thomas....The home is to have 1740 sq. ft.
    of living area, with a 2393 sq. ft. slab..."

    [These are the measurements readable from the strip of paper
    from the model]

    The home was never built. Walters discards the house plans in
    September 1989, 8.5 months after moving out of the home where
    the model was found.

    Of course, Ed could have built the model and placed it in the
    vacant house, but why?

    ------------

    Wrong text file... Shoot...

    I don't seem to have saved away the text with the proof -against- Ed Walters on it. This one is the excerpts that MUFON used to help clear Walters after two of their top researchers uncovered the hoax.

    The researchers were later fired.

    Among the report the researchers later made evident displaced the evidence against the strip as being of an older house plan with the same dimensions (they were common dimensions).

    They were also quoted as saying: "We just said the wrong thing, MUFON has put too much into this Walter's thing."

    They also uncovered a teen photo expert in the area who said he helped Walter's fake the photos.

    The later, 'official', report posted above appears to be combatting 'selective' evidence.

    Billy,
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  • From Roger Jefferies@RICKSBBS to Billy Lawter on Thursday, September 10, 2026 17:58:00
    Excerpts from MUFON Journal, Clearing Ed Walters
    (author of Gulf Breeze Sightings)

    "In order to keep this secret, they have obviously needed to
    do some strange things. For example, one guy who took some
    seemingly pretty good photos of UFOs in Gulf Breeze,
    Florida, was found to have apparently been hiding a model of
    the EXACT craft in his attic (he sold his house and the new
    residents found it). Knell implies that the FBI visited
    this man, stole construction material from him, crafted the
    model, and planted it in the attic..."

    This from the MUFON Journal;

    "...In late December 1988, Ed Walters moved to a new home to
    escape the attention of curiosity seekers. The residence he had
    occupied at 612 Silverthorn Road was put up for sale. The home
    remained vacant for 10 months, until it was purchased by Mr.
    Robert E. Menzer. In March 1990, Menzer was trying to find a
    shutoff valve on the water supply to his kitchen, so he could
    hook up a new ice maker. This search led him into the attic,
    where he found a UFO model under insulation and next to the
    water line to the kitchen.
    On June 4, 1990, a Pensacola News Journal reporter, Craig
    Myers, interviewed Menzer and asked a number of questions,
    including: "Did you find any models of UFOs, anything like
    that?" Menzer showed Myers the model, which Myers borrowed and
    from which he published the story.

    CONCLUSIONS ON MODEL

    Watson's [Gary Watson, MUFONs Chief Investigator for
    Escambia and Santa Rosa Counties] investigation concluded the
    model was not constructed before September 1989, at least 8.5
    months after Walters had moved out of the home. Furthermore,
    close examination of the model and Walters' photographs did not
    show any exact match of markings, height/width ratios, etc.
    Watson's final conclusion: 'The Model was built and planted by
    persons unknown in an attempt to discredit Ed Walters.'"

    End excerpt.

    The MUFON article goes into detial explaining how Watson
    arrived at his findings. I'll briefly outline them here.

    Excerpts;

    "...The model was made out of plastic foam plates and a strip
    of blueprint paper. The inside surface of the paper strip
    suggests it was once a part of a plot plan for a home..."

    "..By his own admission, Ed Walters recognized the
    hand-writing as being his own, suggesting the original
    blueprint was from a home Walters had designed..."

    "...September 6-7, 1989: Walters designs a custom home for
    Mr. and Mrs. Lynn C Thomas....The home is to have 1740 sq. ft.
    of living area, with a 2393 sq. ft. slab..."

    [These are the measurements readable from the strip of paper
    from the model]

    The home was never built. Walters discards the house plans in
    September 1989, 8.5 months after moving out of the home where
    the model was found.

    Of course, Ed could have built the model and placed it in the
    vacant house, but why?

    ------------

    Wrong text file... Shoot...

    I don't seem to have saved away the text with the proof -against- Ed Walters on it. This one is the excerpts that MUFON used to help clear Walters after two of their top researchers uncovered the hoax.

    The researchers were later fired.

    Among the report the researchers later made evident displaced the evidence against the strip as being of an older house plan with the same dimensions (they were common dimensions).

    They were also quoted as saying: "We just said the wrong thing, MUFON has put too much into this Walter's thing."

    They also uncovered a teen photo expert in the area who said he helped Walter's fake the photos.

    The later, 'official', report posted above appears to be combatting 'selective' evidence.

    Billy,
    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    IRC www://irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs


    And to add to that, the residents of the house moved in nearly a year after Walters moved out. They then told reporters about the model months after.

    This is what annoys me: if roles were reversed and evidence of dodgy provenance that SUPPORTED a sighting was found well after the fact, skeptics would rightfully call bullsh*t. But because it discredits Walters, it's accepted on it's face as factual. And it's ALWAYS the first thing mentioned. It's justifies ignoring the sighting completely, even with the multitude of photos taken.

    Roger,
    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    IRC www.irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs
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  • From Billy Lawter@RICKSBBS to Roger Jefferies on Monday, September 14, 2026 07:10:00
    Re: CLEARING ED WALTERS - AUTHOR OF G.B.S.
    By: Roger Jefferies to Billy Lawter on Thu Sep 10 2026 05:58 pm


    Excerpts from MUFON Journal, Clearing Ed Walters
    (author of Gulf Breeze Sightings)

    "In order to keep this secret, they have obviously needed to
    do some strange things. For example, one guy who took some
    seemingly pretty good photos of UFOs in Gulf Breeze,
    Florida, was found to have apparently been hiding a model of
    the EXACT craft in his attic (he sold his house and the new
    residents found it). Knell implies that the FBI visited
    this man, stole construction material from him, crafted the
    model, and planted it in the attic..."

    This from the MUFON Journal;

    "...In late December 1988, Ed Walters moved to a new home to
    escape the attention of curiosity seekers. The residence he had
    occupied at 612 Silverthorn Road was put up for sale. The home
    remained vacant for 10 months, until it was purchased by Mr.
    Robert E. Menzer. In March 1990, Menzer was trying to find a
    shutoff valve on the water supply to his kitchen, so he could
    hook up a new ice maker. This search led him into the attic,
    where he found a UFO model under insulation and next to the
    water line to the kitchen.
    On June 4, 1990, a Pensacola News Journal reporter, Craig
    Myers, interviewed Menzer and asked a number of questions,
    including: "Did you find any models of UFOs, anything like
    that?" Menzer showed Myers the model, which Myers borrowed and
    from which he published the story.

    CONCLUSIONS ON MODEL

    Watson's [Gary Watson, MUFONs Chief Investigator for
    Escambia and Santa Rosa Counties] investigation concluded the
    model was not constructed before September 1989, at least 8.5
    months after Walters had moved out of the home. Furthermore,
    close examination of the model and Walters' photographs did not
    show any exact match of markings, height/width ratios, etc.
    Watson's final conclusion: 'The Model was built and planted by
    persons unknown in an attempt to discredit Ed Walters.'"

    End excerpt.

    The MUFON article goes into detial explaining how Watson
    arrived at his findings. I'll briefly outline them here.

    Excerpts;

    "...The model was made out of plastic foam plates and a strip
    of blueprint paper. The inside surface of the paper strip
    suggests it was once a part of a plot plan for a home..."

    "..By his own admission, Ed Walters recognized the
    hand-writing as being his own, suggesting the original
    blueprint was from a home Walters had designed..."

    "...September 6-7, 1989: Walters designs a custom home for
    Mr. and Mrs. Lynn C Thomas....The home is to have 1740 sq. ft.
    of living area, with a 2393 sq. ft. slab..."

    [These are the measurements readable from the strip of paper
    from the model]

    The home was never built. Walters discards the house plans in
    September 1989, 8.5 months after moving out of the home where
    the model was found.

    Of course, Ed could have built the model and placed it in the
    vacant house, but why?

    ------------

    Wrong text file... Shoot...

    I don't seem to have saved away the text with the proof -against- Ed Walte on it. This one is the excerpts that MUFON used to help clear Walters afte two of their top researchers uncovered the hoax.

    The researchers were later fired.

    Among the report the researchers later made evident displaced the evidence against the strip as being of an older house plan with the same dimensions (they were common dimensions).

    They were also quoted as saying: "We just said the wrong thing, MUFON has too much into this Walter's thing."

    They also uncovered a teen photo expert in the area who said he helped Walter's fake the photos.

    The later, 'official', report posted above appears to be combatting 'selective' evidence.

    Billy,
    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    IRC www://irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs


    And to add to that, the residents of the house moved in nearly a year after Walters moved out. They then told reporters about the model months after.

    This is what annoys me: if roles were reversed and evidence of dodgy provena that SUPPORTED a sighting was found well after the fact, skeptics would rightfully call bullsh*t. But because it discredits Walters, it's accepted o it's face as factual. And it's ALWAYS the first thing mentioned. It's justif ignoring the sighting completely, even with the multitude of photos taken.

    Roger,
    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    IRC www.irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs
    You would think if you were going to 'fake' something you would be sure to take all the damning evidence with you....somehting not right here.
    Billy,
    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    IRC www://irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs
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